8 thoughts on “Vote YES Side Fights Back

  • October 29, 2010 at 7:40 am
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    Awesome. About time.

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  • October 29, 2010 at 7:49 am
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    Just in time for Halloween…

    If the Pro side wants to mislead and distort in their sales materials, that’s up to them.

    But, a great many people strongly object to their pimping out the American flag, and distorting its image, to sell alcohol as “freedom”.

    Spooky!

    By the way, Veterans Day is just around the corner. Great day to fly your flag, not your bottle.

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  • October 29, 2010 at 10:54 am
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    @N.F., Please explain how the Pro side is “mislead[ing]” in their mailer as opposed to how the Anti side did not mislead in their mailer. Looking for some actual facts here N.F., not opinions.

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  • October 29, 2010 at 11:35 am
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    @NF, Your bias is getting old, accusing the Pro side of misleading and distorting, after your posts and the No sides mailers and comments? That’s rich. You have a future in politics, if you’re not their already.

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  • October 29, 2010 at 12:27 pm
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    Memo to Max:

    I’m predicting a loss for your proposition. Here is some unsolicited advice from an arm chair political analyst:

    1. Just because you win the petition drive doesn’t mean the election will go your way. I found it very interesting that there was hardly any mention of this prop in the public domain in the months leading up to this election(I wouldn’t consider this blog to be very public as the IP addresses of some people end up flagged and their comments are not allowed). If you’re just now sending out flyers, as a reaction to the opposition, you’re to late for effect because of early voting.

    2. Never underestimate the opposition’s willingness to stretch the truth. You must define what the proposal is and continue to define it prior to the election. Whistling in the dark and hoping that only your side will notice it is not a strategy.

    3. The timing of your ballot proposal is important. A proposition like this might have a better chance of passing during May elections vs. a November mid-term. It was clear back in April that the conservatives were going to be much more excited to vote this November. I’m not sure what effect the right vs. left partisanship will have on this vote because drinking is an equal opportunity pursuit. However, liquor is always a social issue and the control of it is important to some conservative segments of the electorate.

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  • October 29, 2010 at 4:18 pm
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    @James Tucker,

    I agree with your entire assessment, and the “old guard” will win as usual. In the end, I think people don’t see anything wrong with the town (and I’d mostly agree), and this doesn’t hit their radar screen. I understand this sentiment completely, and with the mayors sending out their garbage, it will scare the “don’t change anything” majority in this town to get to the polls.
    That doesn’t make the “old guards” behavior or self interests any more distasteful, though (I know you’re not saying that JT). And I’d posit that I could put a chimp in as mayor and he/she couldn’t screw it up, so somewhat of a moot point, but eventually our fathers/ grandfathers are going to stop running this town, and the people in this town are going to stop voting for and listening to them blindly, right? Right?

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  • October 29, 2010 at 4:55 pm
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    James’ condescending advice notwithstanding, I agree that the Pro side appears to have been politically out-maneuvered, and that the old guard in UP have no shame in the lies they will tell.

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  • October 29, 2010 at 5:42 pm
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    Not so fast folks. These are the same tactics used all over the state by people who have a vested interest in maintaining the same alcohol laws. They have no logical argument against the propositions, so they spin scary tales and distort the truth. Fact is that despite this unappealing behavior, over 70% of local option elections in our state are won by the pro side these days.

    When I get tired of all their nonsense, I go spend a couple of hours at the early voting location and I am quickly buoyed by the enthusiasm the voters have for these propositions. They are literally shaking our hands saying thank you for doing this, should have been done a long time ago.

    It’s a mix of Dallas and UP voters I know, but I figure UP has more college grads so it’s more likely that our citizens will understand the benefits.

    If I’m wrong, I’ll buy you all a beer. In Dallas.

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